Sunday, May 17, 2009

ENTREVISTA CONFIRMARÍA DENUNCIAS DE MORALES SOBRE COMPLOT CRUCEÑO



El vicepresidente boliviano Álvaro García Linera advirtió que el Gobierno del Presidente Evo Morales será “firme, contundente, implacable e inmisericorde contra quienes atenten contra la integridad territorial del país”.

La Nación de Chile (www.lanacion.com.cl)


"Si ellos, el Gobierno (de La Paz), no permiten la autonomía de Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz está dispuesta a separarse de Bolivia (a través de) métodos pacíficos, pero demostrando fuerza". Así de claras y contundentes fueron las declaraciones del abatido presunto mercenario croata-húngaro-boliviano Eduardo Rózsa Flores, al referirse a las razones por las que se trasladó a Sudamérica a fines del año pasado.
Sin dar nombres, Rózsa -que luchó por el lado croata en la guerra de los Balcanes en los ’90- señaló en una entrevista realizada en septiembre de 2008 y difundida en la noche del martes, que había sido contactado para "organizar la defensa y resistencia" del díscolo departamento del oriente boliviano. Ello, en momentos en que el país vivía un álgido conflicto interno, cuando incluso se especuló sobre una guerra civil de no lograrse un acuerdo sobre la implementación de las autonomías departamentales.
"Estamos dispuestos, dentro de unos meses, en el caso de que la coexistencia no funcione y en virtud de la autonomía, a proclamar la independencia (de Santa Cruz) y crear un nuevo país", afirmó Rózsa al periodista Andras Kepes, del canal estatal MTV. "Las organizaciones proveerán el financiamiento y las armas, las mismas que se obtendrán al margen de la ley. Probablemente desde Brasil, porque en Bolivia el comercio de armas no es legal".
Estas frases, que confirmarían las denuncias de separatismo efectuadas por el Presidente Evo Morales en contra de la elite santacruceña, quizá nunca habrían sido difundidas de no ser por el hecho de que el hombre de triple nacionalidad le hizo jurar al reportero que sólo saldrían al aire en caso de que le sucediera algo. Y el jueves, junto al rumano Mayaro Ariad y el irlandés Duayer Michel Martin, Rózsa respondió con armas de fuego a un allanamiento de la policía, resultando muertos. En el operativo también fueron aprehendidos el boliviano Mario Tadik y el húngaro Iedad Tóasó, hoy encarcelados en La Paz.
Ese mismo día, los agentes hallaron -en un depósito ferial santacruceño- un arsenal que presumiblemente sería utilizado para perpetrar atentados.
Investigación internacional
Una vez emitida la entrevista, el Ejecutivo boliviano no tardó en reaccionar, reafirmando ayer la acusación contra los dirigentes políticos, cívicos y económicos de Santa Cruz. En declaraciones al santacruceño diario El Deber, el ministro de Gobierno (Interior), Alfredo Rada, señaló que Rózsa "sabía que estaba viniendo a matar y que podría morir en el intento, el cálculo estaba en su lógica".
A su vez, el vicepresidente Álvaro García Linera, advirtió que la administración de Evo Morales será "firme, contundente, implacable e inmisericorde contra quienes atenten contra la integridad territorial del país".
Desestimando las palabras de García Linera el acérrimo detractor del Presidente y dirigente cívico de Santa Cruz, Branko Marincovic sostuvo: "Las acusaciones contra (nosotros) son normales y van a seguir haciéndolas, porque el Gobierno se siente impotente". Además, exigió una investigación internacional con presencia del FBI, España y Colombia para evitar -según él- una manipulación política.
Paralelamente, el embajador de Hungría en Argentina, Matyás Jozsa, quien se trasladó a La Paz para obtener información sobre la muerte de su compatriota, aclaró ayer que ni su Ejecutivo ni el de Irlanda apoyan el terrorismo, ni los atentados contra Evo Morales.

ELOD TOAZO TERRORISTA MENTIROSO

Dwyer one of Branko Marinkovic´s men + the bomb vid





 
By Dunk Tue Apr 28, 2009 17:14 Bolivians link Dwyer to boss behind mercenary gang Irish Examiner, By Stephen Rogers Tuesday, April 21, 2009 http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0428...ia=mr BOLIVIAN authorities believe Irishman Michael Dwyer and two others gunned down by security forces following an alleged plot to kill the president last week were working for a rich local businessman (Branko Marinkovic) who wants to divide the country. Serbian media yesterday reported that Bolivian officials had linked Dwyer, Eduardo Rosza Flores and Magyarosi Árpád to the businessman who is of Croat descent and who, they believe, is fighting for the autonomy of rich provinces in the South American country. The businessman, whose father is a Croat and mother is Montenegrin, allegedly organised terrorists and brought in Montenegrin mercenaries, according to Serbian newspaper Blic. Dwyer was shot six times. (not correct due to latest autopsy findings) Meanwhile, US President Barack Obama has rejected any suggestion that the alleged plot to kill Bolivian President Evo Morales was in any way backed by his country’s embassy. Croats in Bolivia accuse of conspiracy to divide the country Hrvate u Boliviji optužuju za zaveru za podelu zemlje BLIC : http://www.blic.rs/svet.php?id=88946 translation: http://translate.google.es/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=es...ate0= Croatian media reported that the Bolivian government assassination connect with Branko Marinkovic, a rich businessman Croatian-Montenegrin origin and Head of the opposition, which advocates autonomy for the rich provinces. Bolivian state media claim that the manufacturer Marinkovic, whose father is a Croat, a mother Crnogorka Radmila Jovicevic, organized by the alleged terrorists. Simon Romero, Head of dopisništva "New York Times" from Bolivia, said the Croatian media that the journalists investigated rumors that leads Marinković mercenaries from Montenegro. Plot Foiled? In Bolivia, Truth Is Elusive SIMON ROMERO, New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/28/world/americas/28boli....html “These terrorists were connected to an ideology of the extreme fascist right,” said Álvaro García Linera, a former Marxist guerrilla who is Bolivia’s vice president. But the episode, with its dash of Balkan intrigue, remains far from an open-and-shut case of right versus left. Meanwhile, the killings have raised a raft of nettlesome questions. Who backed such a group? How did officials detect them? Why did Mr. Morales send the police all the way from the capital, La Paz, to deal with them? And exactly what was a man like Mr. Rozsa Flores, at turns a poet and a war correspondent before his foray into the Balkan killing fields, doing back in Santa Cruz? Mr. Rozsa Flores abandoned journalistic objectivity and took sides. He commanded volunteers fighting for Croatia in the early 1990s, but his battlefield experience was marred by claims that he oversaw the murder of a Briton and a Swiss citizen. Returning to Hungary after the war, Mr. Rozsa Flores converted to Islam, a shift from his earlier association with Opus Dei, the conservative Roman Catholic group. And he found a new political obsession, explaining in a television interview last year with a Hungarian journalist that he was moving to Bolivia to organize a militia. “There is a need for weapons,” he said in the interview, which was broadcast for the first time in Hungary last week after his killing, “so it isn’t about the boys marching in the streets with flags and bamboo sticks.” (How well was Dwyer aware of this? Did he support it the full hog, getting the tattoo to boot?) Mr. Rozsa Flores went further in the interview, saying his goal was not toppling Mr. Morales, but achieving autonomy for Santa Cruz, Bolivia’s wealthiest department, or province. Envisioning a clash with capital La Paz over this issue, he nonchalantly described his goal as “declaring independence and creating a new country.” Such assertions fit well into the way Mr. Morales’s government portrays Santa Cruz: as a region where powerful industrialists and bankers, some of them descendants of Croatian immigrants, want to secede from Bolivia in a rupture inspired by Yugoslavia’s disintegration. Times - Postmortem shows Dwyer was killed by single gunshot http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0428....html MICHAEL DWYER, the Tipperary man who was shot dead by police in Bolivia, died from a single gunshot wound to the chest, an initial postmortem examination has indicated. The body of the 24-year-old was so badly decomposed that his identity had to be confirmed using dental records. Family of man shot in Bolivia wait on result of post mortem http://www.independent.ie/national-news/family-of-man-s....html Journalists at a press conference in La Paz were shown a video reportedly of Michael Dwyer discussing how to assassinate Bolivian president Evo Morales. State prosecutor Marcelo Sosa told reporters the footage shows the Irishman with Eduardo Rózsa Flores and Arpad Magyaros discussing a bomb attack against Mr Morales on Lake Titicaca. Mr Sosa, who is tasked with investigating the killings of the men, said the three-minute mobile phone video shows the men talking about blowing up a boat with Bolivian ministers on board. Local reports said the video was supplied by a man linked to Eduardo Rózsa Flores. Tribune - Dwyer funeral to be held after post-mortem http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2009/apr/2...rtem/ Indo - Dwyers welcome post mortem after son's shooting death http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dwyers-welcome-....html vid: Dwyer bomb plotting in bolivia? TV bolivia, outlining Dwyer in red http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K23xsR2G68

Fiscal cita a líderes de la institucionalidad



Proceso. El prefecto Rubén Costas, el presidente de los empresarios, Pedro Yovhío, el titular de la CAO, Mauricio Roca, y el cívico Guido Náyar, entre otros dirigentes, fueron llamados a declarar por el caso Rózsa
Pablo Ortiz | portiz@eldeber.com.bo


El testigo clave tiene un amplio expediente policial

El Fiscal Mauricio Sosa, que investiga el caso de supuesto terrorismo en Santa Cruz, involucró anoche a Rubén Costas, prefecto de Santa Cruz; Branko Marinkovic, ex presidente del Comité pro Santa Cruz; Pedro Yovhío, presidente de la Federación de Empresarios Privados; Guido Nayar, vicepresidente del Comité pro Santa Cruz; Mauricio Roca, presidente de la Cámara de Industria y Comercio; Juan Kudelka Zallez, gerente de markerting de la aceitera IOL; Lucio Áñez, general retirado, y a los ex gerentes cívicos Lorgio Balcázar Arroyo y Mario Bruno, entre otros dirigentes, autoridades y empresarios, en la red de supuestos contactos y financiadores del presunto terrorista Eduardo Rózsa Flores. Todos ellos deberán presentarse en La Paz en los próximos días.

Estas acusaciones y anuncios de citación a declarar fueron hechas por Sosa sobre la base de las declaraciones de cuatro personas detenidas en La Paz: el boliviano-croata Mario Tadic Aztorga y los supuestos cómplices bolivianos Juan Carlos Gueder Bruno, Alcides Mendoza Malavi e Ignacio Villa Vargas. Este último es considerado por la Fiscalía como su testigo clave y tiene un frondoso expediente de antecedentes penales (ver nota de apoyo). Por su parte, Gueder y Villa negociaron su liberación de la cárcel de San Pedro por detención domiciliaria, a cambio de cooperar con las investigaciones.

Consultado al respecto, Marinkovic negó las acusaciones y adelantó que apelará a tribunales internacionales para tratar de conseguir justicia. Yovhío, por su parte, aseguró que el sector empresarial no hizo nada ilegal y que permanecerá en el país para cualquier requerimiento. Nayar se abstuvo de responder a las acusaciones.

El Secretario de Autonomía de la Prefectura cruceña, Carlos Dabdoub, considera que el Gobierno intenta desestabilizar la institucionalidad cruceña y al departamento, “que es un reducto de la lucha por la democracia”.

Por su parte, el director jurídico de la Prefectura cruceña, Vladimir Peña, aseguró que el prefecto, Rubén Costas, se presentará a declarar siempre y cuando su testimonio sea tomado en Santa Cruz. Consideró que las acusaciones de Sosa carecen de solidez, ya que se basan en las declaraciones de dos detenidos que negociaron su liberación a cualquier costo y de una persona con múltiples acusaciones. “Ya no me extraña nada de la Fiscalía. Esto es una historieta o una telenovela venezolana muy mal contada, que trata de montar algo para que todo el país crea que los líderes de la oposición realmente querían matar a Evo Morales. El fiscal Sosa le está haciendo un daño terrible a la democracia y al país, al no llevar adelante una investigación responsable”, aseguró.

Mauricio Roca, por su parte, confesó que está preocupado por lo que considera un manoseo institucional y personal de parte del Gobierno, y se considera víctima de una represalia política destinada a acallar a todos los que se pusieron al frente del Ejecutivo.

Sosa citó una conferencia de prensa para presentar un cronograma de la supuesta agrupación de terrorista, en la que se puede ver a Eduardo Rózsa como jefe del presunto grupo armado y a los abogados Hugo Achá Melgar, Alejandro Melgar Pereira y el empresario Kudelka, como los intermediarios con los financiadores. Rózsa, según Sosa, controlaba a su vez a Michael Dwyer, Árpád Magyarosi, Mario Tadic, Dudok Gabor y Daniel Gaspar. Tenía contactos con Lorgio Balcázar, empresario de radios y ex gerente del Comité, y con el consejero de administración de Cotas, Luis Alberto Hurtado Vaca, que, según datos de la Fiscalía y de la comisión de la Cámara de Diputados, fue el que pagó el hospedaje de los extranjeros de la supuesta banda de terroristas.

Rózsa, siguiendo el cronograma del Ministerio Público, también tendría contacto con el general retirado Lucio Áñez, que ya fue citado a declarar. El militar confirma que conoció a Rózsa, pero su encuentro no pasó de una charla sobre el golpe de Estado de García Meza, sobre el cual discrepó con el el boliviano-húngaro-croata. Dijo que no irá a declarar a La Paz porque tiene problemas de salud que le impiden subir a 3.600 metros sobre el nivel del mar.

Áñez es acusado por Gueder y Mendoza de haberlos contactados para unirse al grupo de Rózsa. Sosa acotó además que tiene mensajes de texto desde el celular de Áñez al de estos acusados.

El representante del Ministerio Público añadió que Tadic fue contactado por Rózsa en Croacia y que le pagó su pasaje de Madrid a Santa Cruz. Tadic, en su declaración confirmó la existencia de dos prófugos, Dudok Gabor y Daniel Gaspar, que supuestamente discutieron con Rózsa en el hotel Asturias. La función de Tadic era traducir manuales militares para la instrucción de supestas células armadas.
Gueder Bruno, por su parte, declaró que había entrenamientos en el stand de Fegasacruz de la Fexpo y que luego, por la organización de Agropecruz, se trasladaron al stand que usa Cotas. Mendoza, por su parte, asevera que acompañó a Rózsa y al resto del grupo a Trinidad, donde se reunió con dirigencia cívica que no identificó. Asegura que Héctor Laguna (funcionario de la CAO) y Mario Bruno le ofrecieron liderar el grupo.

Por su parte, Villa es el que más nombres provee a la investigación. En su declaración, leída por Sosa, señala que lo contactó Rózsa bajo el alias de Germán Aguilera y que estuvo en reuniones en la que estuvieron Marinkovic, Yovhío, Nayar, Melgar, Achá, Roca, el arquitecto Edmundo Farah, los empresarios Horacio D’Arruda y José Luis Quiroga Ottonello, el dirigente deportivo Carlos Guillén (señalado como proveedor del vehículo en el que se desplazaba Rózsa) y el funcionario de la Prefectura Francisco Cirbián.

Asimismo señaló que habló por teléfono con el prefecto Costas y que éste le ofreció una casa y una estancia a cambio de su ‘trabajo’.
También se involucró como conductor en el atentado contra la casa del cardenal Terrazas, pero dijo que Dwyer y Rózsa fueron los que lo perpetraron y que tuvieron que volver tres veces a encender la mecha, pese a que la Policía dijo que se usó explosivo plástico, que se acciona electrónicamente no por mecha.

Además de este grupo de personas, esta semana deben apersonarse a La Paz los gerentes de los hoteles Buganvilla, Santa Cruz, Asturias y Las Américas, los abogados Alejandro Melgar ( que está en Uruguay) y Hugo Achá (que está en EEUU), el gerente de Cotas, Herland Suárez Antelo, el general Lucio Áñez, el gerente de la empresa de seguridad Falcón, Miguel Salek y el consejero de Cotas, Luis Alberto Hurtado Vaca.

Además, Sosa espera la decisión del juez Sexto de Instrucción en lo Penal, Álvaro Melgarejo, si toma las declaraciones de Villa como prueba adelantada, mientras que Mendoza y Gueder tramitan su traslado a Santa Cruz, a falta de un garante que asegure que no se fugarán. Su abogado, Denver Pedraza, anunció que hoy estarán de vuelta en sus hogares.

Examen Forense

Michael Dwyer

- Murió por anemia aguda, seguido de shock hipovolémico. Tiene heridas múltiples en el tórax y en el abdomen, producidas por balazos. Recibió siete impactos: cuatro en el pecho y tres en el abdomen.
Árpád Magyarosi

- Murió de anemia aguda seguida de shock hipovolémico.

- Tiene heridas múltiples producidas por proyectil de armas de fuego.

- Recibió seis impactos: dos en el pecho y cuatro en el abdomen.


Eduardo Rózsa Flores

- Murió por traumatismo encéfalo-craneano, seguido de anemia aguda y shock hipovolémico. Tiene heridas múltiples en el tórax y en el abdomen.

- Recibió siete impactos de bala: uno en la cabeza, dos en el pecho, cuatro en el estomago. La autopsia fue hecha el 16 de abril por Antonio torres y Rafael Vargas.

Friday, May 15, 2009

Flores Was a Nazi - As Was Dwyer’s Tattoo and Nacion Camba in Santa Cruz


Santa Cruz Nazi Simbolgy

Costas Santa Cruz Governor Jeep: Yup!!! Definitely Nazis

Nazism Bolivian Style: By Cholos Meztiso Cambas

national anarchism , national socialism , revolutionary conservativism = Nazism
By MH
Mon Apr 20, 2009 04:17

Dwyers tattoo does not just contain the SS flash but the runic wolfshooks and triskelles inextricably linked with the 21st century nazi " national anarchist" and Hammerskin street scene . Which is just as fascist and racist as national socialism was .


Its just the same racist nazi shite jazzed up a little to blatantly copy and kijack the black bloccers street fashion and symbols . Flores was a nazi . The ethnic european seperatist political movement he was attached to in santa cruz Nacion Camba is openly and violently racist against native Bloivian natives .
Its fascist and racist supporters travel about in jeeps and vans with the swastika openly emblazoned upon them. Santa Cruz was a magnet for former nazi and Ustashe mebers fleeing post war europe .

Dwyer was a military fixated gun nut who did not just meet Flores in passing . Theres a number of photgrpahs out there of the 2 men socialising in each others company . Dwyer would have been in no doubt of the violent , fascist and racist nature of either Flores or Nacion Camba .

He would need to have been educationally sub normal not to know that the tattoo he recently aquired did not consist of multiple nazi insignia and emblems - SS flash , triskelle and runic wolfshooks arranged again into a triskelle .

Its also apparent that a very dodgy and repetitive campaign suggesting all of this was perfectly innocent , that Flores wasnt a nazi and that Evo Morales had these people killed for no good reason has been going on right accross Irish internet land for the last few days .

And that the line of this campaign has been the one unquestionably adopted by the Irish media yesterday . There are also heavies posted at the gates of Dwyers house in Tipp warning of any nosey parkers this is looking quite scandalous indeed and its becoming less and less apparent Dwyer was just some innocent caught up in something .

Fucking Hell: More Twists...Dwyer worked for Shell Security Company in Mayo

By Dunk
Mon Apr 20, 2009 00:18

It has been proposed on another IMC-IE thread that:
Man Killed in Bolivia was employed by a security firm to keep out protesters at the Bellanaboy site

The security firm employed by Shell to stop protests by locals against the building of the gas pipeline had employed Tipperary man Mike Dwyer at the site in the past.


Our investigations on Dwyer who was killed by a Bolivian Special Forces unit during the week in the city of Santa Cruz throw up some interesting findings. He has worked for security firm Integrated Risk Management Services IRMS based in Nass, County Kildare. It is owned by Terry Downes and James Farrell. Both Downes and Farrell are former members of the Irish Army Rangers. IRMS personnel have being working closely with the Garda at the site and one photo of such activity shows Dwyer as one of two men seem filming protestors .


http://www.indymedia.ie/article/91977

It would be well worth checking out how many "tough paddys" are out in latin America, what they are up to, whos using them etc...

Perhaps there might be another one of Dwers pals out in venezuala, Cuba, el salvador, etc...

The war against democracy - why what goes on "over there" does affect Ireland and her crisis


540,000,000,000 - Why Crisis Ireland should learn from Bolivia. Time for the West to awake again
By Dunk
Sun Apr 19, 2009 21:37

Firstly Tipp dude,

Re - "It seems like Dwer WAS a typical tip dude, into guns and a bit of adventure ", sorry but you read that wrong, I was not, or never would as have plenty of tip friends myself, trying to make the point that all tip dudes, and dudettes, are into guns, they are not. I was refering to him as similar to the many tip mates I have, BUT, that he, also, was into guns and all that craic.

In terms of typical Tip, id like to throw in this gem:
Vintage Eddie Moroney Commentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POHuXU01bOs

I am sorry for him and his family, it is a very sad thing, when anyone dies. sympathies to them and his mates, I remember how odd and sad it was when my own mates died young. But, with all the gun culture, tough guy films culture that we live in today, i think we have to always quesion what type of world are we living in, what that has led to and continues to lead to.

My own opinion is that which Ireland turned into over the last 15 years or so, is, in many regards, a heap of shit. When last home my own mother said to me "The Celtic Tiger drove you out of Ireland", that is partly true, i was so saddened to see things turn so much. Yes it was better in some regards, ie having more of an option as to what type of life you want, as opposed to 3 of a family of 5 having to emigrate from West Clare, as was my own mothers family story. BUT, the changes that saddened me was the shift from quite a caring, tuned in, smart, funny, generous people to a group more concerned with money, money, money. Less craic, less awareness of how the real world works, and less participation in universal thinking and action for a just, sustainable and peaceful world for all. Dont get me wrong, as a nipper we all played war games "beat the english" on the farm, practicing pitch fork throwing at bales of hay etc, but later in life moved to developing an awarness of how the world works.

I think there are quiet a few people into the adventure side of things, for others they have political ideologies which i dont support, and they use violence in promoting their shite. My own friends who are not white and who live in Dublin, have experienced a huge increase in physical rascist violence against them in only the last few months. Like much of the rest of Europe, fascism is growing "They are all here taking our jobs, screwing the welfare" (which was the exact type of shite the Irish emigrants had to put up with in England only 1 generation ago) and with that things are getting nasty. Unfortunately I have seen this swing to the right in republican circles, now that could become very very fucking nasty! More young people are starting to get into that stuff, perhaps some of it includes the type of fantasies of adventurers who fancy being a bond, or jason bourne, playing the hitman for big CIA dudes etc.... perhaps Dwer fell into this adventure catagory. Im not sure about if he really was a nazi sympathiser, from "friends" reports he seemed like a much liked fella, but a lot can change in a short time, Bolivia is many many worlds (most of my mates here in Barcelona are from Latin America) and perhaps his thinking changed, maybe he had a bit of a manic streak and just got into a bad adventure which unfortunately turned out bad. Or maybe he actually got into the full nazi thing and did indeed get that tatoo with the somewhat hidden SS in it and from that did actually conspire with the complex characrter of Flores (again, check out his politics: http://national-anarchism.blogspot.com/ + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-Anarchism) to assisinate Morales? im sure in time that will become known.

Now in response to Josie, who stated "Our everyday economic lives in Ireland are worrying enough without having to fantasize about Bolivian political intrigue." As stated above, I dont like the "new" Ireland, my view is that Ireland and much of the world is in the shite, because The corportate sysytem has dumbed us down to such an extent by mindless films and culture (what are posh and becks up to no?) that we have switched of our understanding of the workings of the world, not participated in the process of organising our own lives etc. And as a result have got what we deserve; to be taken for a ride by a crowd of thieves. Now with the "crisis" and "recession" people have learned the hard way; the system is shite, and in the end fucks you. BUT, now that people have waken up, they are asking "how the fuck", "what the fuck, "why the fuck" and thats a healthy thing.

As to a healthier system, of which is probably the best example on the planet, for many like me it is about ordinary people organising themselves, their families, their communities, their countries. That, in theory, is how proper democracy is supposed to work. For many, HOPE is an important thing, and Bolivia, along with much of Latin America is providing that in bundles. Now, if Morales was assisinated, that would suit a lot of corporate vested interests. But he wasnt and Bolivia still continues to inspire. In support of these points id direct you to the first 2 embedded films, Pilgers "the war against democracy" and the John Perkins interview about CIA using "jackels" to enter countries to take out "bad guys".

If and when you start to learn more about participative democracy, learn more about how Bolivia works, then maybe, Josie and others, ye might start to really work for a saner Ireland (Christ it needs it). For example, Bolivan people, the Quechua speaking indigineos simply stood up and said "fuck off" to the multi nationals who bought out the water system and started increasing the cost of water (perfect exampe of how and why neo liberal capitalist model does not work, unless your in the top 3% who has all the cash...). Now if Ireland was to take a leaf out of the Bolivian book, they would see how our resources in Rossport were sold off to thieves by thieves, they would get angry and they would support Shell to Sea and demand our resources for us (crisis, what crisis, the gas would inject 540 BILLION into irelands pocket; http://www.indymedia.ie/article/91833 ) But that is not the case, YET.

On a side note, at the second rossport solidarity camp, there were people from Bolivia there. There to make the link that "our struggle, is your struggle", unfortunately only a handfull of people were there to speak with them from our tiny little island.

But to offer HOPE, Ireland is changing, as I stated on other post under "Global Crisis and the Re-Session" from afar the DOOM AND GLOOM OF RECESSION is all you hear, but at home the one thing that i heard time and time again was "the best thing to happen Ireland is that this recession has come, peopel have woken up again".
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/91915&comment_limit=0&c...49982

Summary is we live in a totally interconnected world, so thinking global acting local is about the healthiest thing you can do. With that, keeping Latin America growing healthier and healthier is very important, learning from them and doing it in your local makes sense, so with that if your not already doing it, please start.

A friend made an important point:
What we really should be talking about is why this assassination story is different.

After all there have been 6 reported plots to kill Morales.

& the last 5 were "foiled" by the combination of Venezuelan and Cuban intelligence work, as you all remember both Chavez and Castro undertook to guarantee Morales' life after the first plot.

Another thing that makes it different is the reaction of the Irish media.

National Anarchism is Good Old Fashioned Fascism (About Flores)

by MH
Sun Apr 19, 2009 20:37

Flores was undoubtedly a fascist , no doubt about that at all so therefore his motivation to become involved in such a plot would be both ideological and financial . With young Mr Dwyer that remains unclear . He was most definitely in the company of a highly motivated and trained fascist mercenary who openly identified himself with a fascist ideology . And newly acquired himself a very large tattoo which incorprorated the SS insignia into its design .
Such tattoos are very common among the ultra right in europe who also espouse " national anarchism" and seek to blend and infiltrate nazism into the street style of the anarchist and anti fascist youth culture which physically stands in its way on the streets and housing estates of many european capitals in the 21st century . Much as "national socialism" did in the early 20th century . It also clear the young man was deeply fixated with militarism , guns and uniforms and appeared to place his personal identity within this sphere to a large extent and publicise that .
According to some of his freinds and indeed a newspaper this morning he had been sent to Bolivia for training by a security firm . Posts on his Bebo from some months back indicate his employer was generous enough to provide him with a BMW motorcar . Its alleged in the Sunday Times that security firm was Galway based . It appears Mr Dwyer had indeed previously worked for a Galway based security firm . Someone who claims to know Mr Dwyer and whos been personally striving to set the record stratight on his behalf for a few days now on politics.ie claims he knows the identity of the security firm but claims its nobodys business . He also denies working for it .

However no security firm seems to be taking responsibility for him at the current moment or admitting any link to him and indeed it was left up to an Irish diplomat based in Argentina to actually travel some thousands of miles to Bolivia in order to confirm that an Irish citizen had died and make arrangements for hsi remains to be returned to his family ..
If he was being employed by a security firm it would appear his employer has been very remiss in their responsibilities as an employer and for whatever reason is quite anxious not to be associated with this young man in any manner shape or form . Thus far the Bolivian government have not made mention of his employer either .

Therefore I believe the sooner this security firm is identified , or discounted , from this scenario the sooner the truth of what happened can be more fully established .

Lets hope it wasnt involved in any murky goings on around Mayo . Oil and gas and all that